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Prosper Lending Research Results

Posted by TheFinanceGuy in August 12th 2008  

As I mentioned in a prior post, I did some very basic research into what would happen if one were to keep the loan balance low (to the absolute minimum of $1,000). The following is a summary.

From November 2005 through June 15th 2008, there were a total of 893 total loans of $1,000. Of these, 582 are active (65.2%). Of the active loans, 560 are current (95.7%; 3 are in payoff), 308 have been paid off (34.5%), and only 25 are late or worse (2.8% of total, 4.3% of active loans). Note that the criteria for the above loans is as follows: AA to D, $1,000 or less, any state. No verification on homeowner or auto funding.

Based on this most basic of analysis, one would conclude that it is possible to earn decent returns from Prosper, with very low risk (again very low is subjective). Oh, the ‘decent return’ in this case is about 13.05% over the period for active loans (a bit less at 12% for all loans).

As I went through the study I noticed some more flaws in this strategy: the limited number of loans makes it impossible to scale progressively. By scale progressively I mean to gradually increase the loan amounts per bid, starting from the minimum ($50). This is because by increasing the bid size, the distribution is skewed, and the money weighted returns would be affected by any eventual defaults on the higher limit bids.

Thus, if one started with $50 bid and won every single loan outstanding, there would seem to have been a limit of about $40,000 to $50,000 in the account. Granted, $50K @ 13% is still not bad. Note also that while progressive scaling is not advised, scaling up front also has a limit. Given that the loan amount is only $1,000, one is already 5% of the loan at $50. By increasing to $100 bid, one would be at 10%. For the purposes of diversification, 10% of the loan is probably the absolute max you want to be at, before it starts to defeat the purpose of the exercise.

One could argue that being a large proportion of the loan is not an issue, since it has no bearing on whether or not the loan will eventually default. While I think this is mathematically true per se, I believe there to be some level of correlation among the loans so that you lose some diversification benefits as the bid amount rises.

So what is the bottom line? This strategy would currently likely be acceptable up to about $100K ($100 bid). Anything higher and I personally would not be comfortable. But then that’s just me. I haven’t looked at the $1,500 to $2,000 loan requests, but I suspect the non-currency rate to rise. By how much I don’t know. Certainly, as the size of the loan rises, the number of loan requests will also rise. So, within reason, one could extend this strategy and simply increase the credit worthiness requirement (i.e., drop the ‘D’ ratings when moving to $1,500, and drop the ‘C’ ratings when moving to $2,000). However, as the years go on one could just stick to the original strategy and move beyond the $50K limit that currently exists simply by more loans being originated.

Are there flaws in this study? Probably. Tell me what you think.

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(Nearly) Risk-Free Peer to Peer Lending with Prosper

Posted by TheFinanceGuy in August 8th 2008  

In a prior post, I laid out my motivations for why I went searching for a strategy for using with Prosper. In this post, I lay out the details of how I am currently investing with Prosper. So how is it done? First, put some money into Prosper. Second, lend some money to some people (actually what we’re doing is buying loans from Prosper, but that is a technicality for lawyers not us). In Step 2, you can lend to just about anyone, no matter what credit rating. Next, …..Click here to read more

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Is Prosper Worth The Risk?

Posted by TheFinanceGuy in August 8th 2008  

I have been doing peer to peer lending since last year (started just before the credit crunch). I currently use Prosper, but only because I haven’t had time nor money to experiment with other sites. After 18 months of using Prosper, I have 55 open loans, an astonishing 10 of which are late or worse. Obviously this is not a great rack record, but I wondering: are the non-current loans my fault, or is it the fault of the business model? In other words, is peer to peer lending worth the risk? As with most things in life, the answer is an unequivocal maybe.

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How to Get Rich Playing the Stock Market

Posted by TheFinanceGuy in August 4th 2008  

A while back, guys like Graham and Dodd (authors of the classic Security Analysis) suggested strongly that a company’s earnings power was ultimately the predominate measure by which its value should be determined. Some time later, a guy named John Burr Williams wrote another treatise which said that no, we really should be using dividends to value companies (the discounted cash flow model). Well, as it turns out, both camps are only kind of right.  …..Click here to read more

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